Comments for Stop http://stop.zona-m.net fuel for your brain! / carburante per il cervello Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:05:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 Comment on Are computers really needed in (basic) education? by Is E-Voting a solution? To which problem? | Stop http://stop.zona-m.net/2007/07/are-computers-really-needed-in-basic-education/#comment-2494 Is E-Voting a solution? To which problem? | Stop Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:05:05 +0000 http://stop.zona-m.net/2007/07/are-computers-really-needed-in-basic-education/#comment-2494 [...] many young peoples are unable to count properly and part of the fault is just the misuse of computers, but we digress. Sure, humans make many more errors than computers when counting manually. But it [...] [...] many young peoples are unable to count properly and part of the fault is just the misuse of computers, but we digress. Sure, humans make many more errors than computers when counting manually. But it [...]

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]]> Comment on If banking were more Open Source, we would need less Wikileaks by ismail http://stop.zona-m.net/2010/12/if-banking-were-more-open-source-we-would-need-less-wikileaks/#comment-2412 ismail Tue, 07 Feb 2012 12:43:34 +0000 http://stop.zona-m.net/?p=1828#comment-2412 Thx all for your nice comments, I'm working with Simon on the Open Bank Project and I'm always happy and impressed by the feedback we have from the community. Just to give a quick update, Open Bank Project is still running, we manage to have some code done right now, we have our first prototype, we've approached some big banks here and there in Europe(surprisingly, they weren't as uninterested as expected :)), next step is to have as many organisations as possible to support us and say they would adopt Open Bank Project and share their financial data. Our strategy is to create a kind of social pressure toward the adoption of Open Bank just as marco was saying politician won't get my vote until they adopt Open Bank and they demonstrate more transparency! If interested in OBP drop me a line, my email is ismail (at) TESOBE (dot) com. I'd be happy to keep you posted about our wonderful adventure :) Cheers, Ismail Thx all for your nice comments, I’m working with Simon on the Open Bank Project and I’m always happy and impressed by the feedback we have from the community. Just to give a quick update, Open Bank Project is still running, we manage to have some code done right now, we have our first prototype, we’ve approached some big banks here and there in Europe(surprisingly, they weren’t as uninterested as expected :) ), next step is to have as many organisations as possible to support us and say they would adopt Open Bank Project and share their financial data. Our strategy is to create a kind of social pressure toward the adoption of Open Bank just as marco was saying politician won’t get my vote until they adopt Open Bank and they demonstrate more transparency!

If interested in OBP drop me a line, my email is ismail (at) TESOBE (dot) com.
I’d be happy to keep you posted about our wonderful adventure :)
Cheers,
Ismail

]]> Comment on If banking were more Open Source, we would need less Wikileaks by marco http://stop.zona-m.net/2010/12/if-banking-were-more-open-source-we-would-need-less-wikileaks/#comment-2409 marco Tue, 07 Feb 2012 07:23:00 +0000 http://stop.zona-m.net/?p=1828#comment-2409 "Openness cannot be forced on anyone" In general, I do agree. Not so with politicians. If they want my vote, why shouldn't they be open on certain issues? The openness possible with Open Bank is not an all or nothing proposition. When it comes to working around requirements, people will always do that, with whatever system. Some systems just leave more space for this than others, and Open Bank seems to me better than what we have today. But if "they will work around requirements" enough to stop change by itself, we'd better run off a cliff. With respect to interest-free currency, Greco etc: I have a basic knowledge of what you are talking about. Even if I wanted it (I have no definite opinion yet), asking for Open Bank doesn't mean giving up the quest for more radical changes. People who don't compromise often don't accomplish any improvement in the end. There are cases where any compromise is wrong, by principle. I don't think this is one of them. “Openness cannot be forced on anyone”

In general, I do agree. Not so with politicians. If they want my vote, why shouldn’t they be open on certain issues? The openness possible with Open Bank is not an all or nothing proposition. When it comes to working around requirements, people will always do that, with whatever system. Some systems just leave more space for this than others, and Open Bank seems to me better than what we have today. But if “they will work around requirements” enough to stop change by itself, we’d better run off a cliff.

With respect to interest-free currency, Greco etc: I have a basic knowledge of what you are talking about. Even if I wanted it (I have no definite opinion yet), asking for Open Bank doesn’t mean giving up the quest for more radical changes. People who don’t compromise often don’t accomplish any improvement in the end. There are cases where any compromise is wrong, by principle. I don’t think this is one of them.

]]> Comment on If banking were more Open Source, we would need less Wikileaks by Andrew Durham http://stop.zona-m.net/2010/12/if-banking-were-more-open-source-we-would-need-less-wikileaks/#comment-2407 Andrew Durham Tue, 07 Feb 2012 00:42:29 +0000 http://stop.zona-m.net/?p=1828#comment-2407 There is a massive contradiction in idea of applying this to officials. Openness cannot be forced on anyone, least of all politicians, who will just respond like hackers and workaround the requirements. Which will be possible as long as our money is interest-bearing. Likewise, as open source, interest-free currency spreads in the form of web-based credit clearing systems (see work of Thomas Greco), the monopoly on supply of the kind of money that causes corruption will no longer be enforceable, either. No political organization necessary. Just the writing of code and an organization to use it. There is a massive contradiction in idea of applying this to officials. Openness cannot be forced on anyone, least of all politicians, who will just respond like hackers and workaround the requirements. Which will be possible as long as our money is interest-bearing.

Likewise, as open source, interest-free currency spreads in the form of web-based credit clearing systems (see work of Thomas Greco), the monopoly on supply of the kind of money that causes corruption will no longer be enforceable, either.

No political organization necessary. Just the writing of code and an organization to use it.

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]]> Comment on Open Data for crime prevention: some food for thought from Brazil by Open Data for crime prevention: some food for thought from Brazil … http://stop.zona-m.net/2011/12/open-data-for-crime-prevention-some-food-for-thought-from-brazil/#comment-2370 Open Data for crime prevention: some food for thought from Brazil … Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:27:33 +0000 http://stop.zona-m.net/?p=3616#comment-2370 [...] Visit link: Open Data for crime prevention: some food for thought from Brazil … [...] [...] Visit link: Open Data for crime prevention: some food for thought from Brazil … [...]

]]> Comment on Open Data for crime prevention: some food for thought from Brazil by Open Data for crime prevention: some food for thought from Brazil … - Jornal do Brasil http://stop.zona-m.net/2011/12/open-data-for-crime-prevention-some-food-for-thought-from-brazil/#comment-2339 Open Data for crime prevention: some food for thought from Brazil … - Jornal do Brasil Wed, 25 Jan 2012 00:03:20 +0000 http://stop.zona-m.net/?p=3616#comment-2339 [...] the original: Open Data for crime prevention: some food for thought from Brazil … Tags: brasil, crime, meeting, national, national-meeting, result, the-first, the-potential, [...] [...] the original: Open Data for crime prevention: some food for thought from Brazil … Tags: brasil, crime, meeting, national, national-meeting, result, the-first, the-potential, [...]

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